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Dianila Artemisa
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.13 15:12:00 -
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Verity Sovereign wrote:Most recently, ISN left an incursion where this massive payout-less blob was harassing them, and went to the other high sec incursion. DIN killed the mom and followed ISN to blob some more to shut ISN isk flow.
That part is incorrect. The two most recent incursions have been closed by a Russian group (don't remember their name) and TDF (an armor group). I agree with your statement that there is a problem, but it's up to the leaders of the incursion communities to end it.
I don't know who you fly with, but I would like to point out that ISN doesn't like being contested by a blob they can't beat, but that's the same way people in a TVP fleet feel when ISN contests them, they can't beat ISN and get a payout, but they also can't get a payout because with equal numbers, ISN wins.
tl;dr: The incursion community leaders should fix the problems they have instead of escalating the current situation. |
Dianila Artemisa
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.14 20:05:00 -
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Wow, I see a lot of talking about an "angry german", but it seems everybody, including me, is angry. I suppose that 99% of the people just want to make ISK without the drama. So please, to everybody: create an agreement *TOGETHER* and stick to it, I'm pretty sure nobody likes the current situation where we have to move every second day because one side popped the mom or provoked the other side to pop it.
So, I talked about this in DIN-Flotten (DIN's public channel) and I got laughed at, something like "we don't negotiate with ISN", the longer this lasts, the more tempted I feel to get these idiots calling themselves "community leaders" together, put them in one room and don't let them out till they come with a solution (killing each other is NOT a solution btw). Please all go back to grinding and the occasional contest (because honestly, some DIN/TVP fleets can actually beat ISN when ISN comes to contest them (yes, that's at equal numbers))
tl;dr: Incursion community leadership need to get their heads out of their asses and create an agreement everybody agrees to. |
Dianila Artemisa
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.15 12:12:00 -
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Yeah... this is going nowhere.... It's good to see that DaisyCutter offered ISN to create a "mutual beneficial arrangement" though. I would love to see ISN (and DIN, please guys, I just want to make ISK) accept that offer and create such an arrangement so we don't even have to ask for mechanics changes.
I know people like Miles tried this with limited succes, but now it's time for the community leaders to think carefully about what's better for their pilots, let the current situation go on or set the prejudices and hatred aside and create the agreement that has been mentioned before. It's not about your ego, it's about what's good for the community (and if it actually is an ego problem, please just duel each other to settle it). Also, saying "but they did ..." is the best way to make sure nothing happens, pointing out what the other guys did is not going to help. "He who is without sins cast the first stone"
tl;dr Just read it, it's not that long. |
Dianila Artemisa
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.15 18:38:00 -
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Miles Forrester wrote:Now to just get all the communities to agree with this...
And that's where it'll get difficult... But I agree with it (but who am I? I'm just a grunt who tries to run incursions with some SWA people every now and then) |
Dianila Artemisa
Thorn Project
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2013.03.16 19:40:00 -
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How about get an agreement everybody agrees to instead of running around popping moms? We might actually be able to just make ISK without being scared of other people contesting/blobbing/popping the mothership. |
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